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Is Dengeki Moeoh 2012-10 getting rescanned? It looks like post #222445 is the same as this one, and it's in a pool labeled "Dengeki Moeoh 2012-10," but this one is labeled as being in the pool "Dengeki Moeoh 2012-10 (new)." Why are these scans getting uploaded again in another pool? And from what I can tell, then new scans look worse. Many (all?) seem to be more faded and have creases in them.
Kalessin said:
Is Dengeki Moeoh 2012-10 getting rescanned? It looks like post #222445 is the same as this one, and it's in a pool labeled "Dengeki Moeoh 2012-10," but this one is labeled as being in the pool "Dengeki Moeoh 2012-10 (new)." Why are these scans getting uploaded again in another pool? And from what I can tell, then new scans look worse. Many (all?) seem to be more faded and have creases in them.
I would suppose the sources are different, the old ones may actually from AP
Refer to this comment. One of the reasons why suemura's looks better is he changes the color dramatically by something like "auto adjust" which extends the color to fill all of the range, and uses heavy filters to make scans 'clean'. Just like some ppl's favor when they watch videos: high contract, minimized noise. I can't say they're not good from the view of watching, but at least not correct.
And admittedly midzki did much better work than me. I always dunno how to make the color perfect (they often look too bluish).. So I just leave them there (except cut some white level) to prevent any change leads to ruin. That's why they sometimes look faded.

IIRC midzki's raw scans are like color-adjusted when I just started to edit, so I didn't need to adjust them to much.. but not any more :P
My only real issue with suemura's approach is that it tends to make the midtones look too dark, the curve adjustments are too aggressive. On images like this it makes the half-tones look "dirty" so in this case I prefer your scan color-wise.

I've often wondered about the blue, it does seem like a lot of them are a little heavy on the blue and maybe a bit red sometimes.
The mid-tone issue is due to clipping of black level. Just look at some digital releases, in most of the cases they have "light" color which means they have space between 0 to very first color and high gamma initially. For example: post #232078, histogram is like http://snag.gy/7zwrx.jpg If you just clip the black level all (that's what 'auto adjust' does) the color would result in dark mid-tone, not to mention if you did it too much which make the dark area be like a mess..

Sometimes even the original digital itself looks faded, but I believe it's because my screen sucks. Artists should have professional monitor which has better color range and contrast then the images would be more vivid when they see.
On the contrary, the real dark area (actually in digital artists rarely use the darkest colors besides black) of an image is the hardest part to deal with for scans. First of all due the technique of screening printing you can hardly save the details in dark areas when denoising. Secondly, the ink of 'black' is far from 0, 0, 0 in digital. It affects lines mostly, reduces the sharpness of an image. And If you're trying to match the dark area's colors, you're ruining light color and vice versa.
The thing that makes me waver is the fact that suemura's scans always have their creases fixed. Ultimately when it comes time to clean up the folder I still end up deleting them more often than not because of the color. You can look past creases most of the time but bad color or levels ruins the whole image.
Xcalibur said:
You can look past creases most of the time but bad color or levels ruins the whole image.
Really? As long as the color isn't way off, I find creases to be far more disruptive than the color. Stuff that causes fault tags is pretty much always worse. And creases and gaps are among the worst.
Kalessin said:
Really? As long as the color isn't way off, I find creases to be far more disruptive than the color. Stuff that causes fault tags is pretty much always worse. And creases and gaps are among the worst.
I guess it depends on the crease and the particular image. Some really bother me, but I have a thing about color so it's what I pay attention to more. Thank goodness for images that have neither problem.
Xcalibur said:
Thank goodness for images that have neither problem.
Indeed. It's always better to have higher quality images, and as many problems as this site and its images may have, it generally provides high quality images from great artists.