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Thorcsf
over 1 year agoTrit
over 1 year agoThorcsf
over 1 year agoDid you ever notice (probably yes) that almost all these erotic/pornographic Japanese-style illustrations feature white girls in sexual intercourse with dark-skinned men? Did you ever notice that the women are always white, while the men are almost always dark-skinned? And sometimes they have unrealistic and ridiculous skin tones, like clay or something resembling vomit or diarrhea. And when you rarely see dark-skinned girls in such media, the man/men which she is copulating with has an even darker shade of skin than hers; or her skin has a beautiful natural look, while the man's is unrealistic/unnatural/ugly. You see that trend in every kind of erotic Japanese-style media: single illustrations, doujinshi, eroge, hentai... This one here is a rare exception when the guy is white; but even other works from this artist feature brown men copulating with white girls. Some doujinshi artists even do ridiculous things as change the color of the man's skin during the course of the story: it starts as white as the girl's, then it "magically" becomes darker during the h-scene, then it becomes white again after it ends.
There's an isekai eroge series, "Fantasy Tavern Sextet" (Isekai Sakaba no Sextet), available on Steam (I haven't played it, but I've seen the screenshots), that the MC has a white skin in some h-scene and a brown skin in another, but mostly white in the first volume of the game. The thing is that it becomes darker and darker as we reach Vol. 2 and then Vol. 3. Amazing, he must have had many sun-bathes in this new world during the course of his new life there; but somehow the sun only affects the MC, as all the girls are always white!
This unfortunate trend doesn't stop on erotic/pornographic Japanese-style media, it's also present in anime. EVERY ecchi/fan service and harem anime feature countless of dark-skinned male individuals, but you won't ever see a dark-skinned girl in such genres! See "To LOVE-Ru", "High School DxD", "Date A Live"... "Date A Live" is the least one, as the protagonist, Shido, has only a lightly darker skin shade than the girls, but all the girls are white nonetheless, all of them have lighter skin than him. "High School DxD" is worse, as you see MANY male individual with dark skin all the time, but, again, ALL the girls are always white! But "To LOVE-Ru" is the worst; you constantly see CROWDS and CROWDS of dark-skinned male individuals (the big majority of them), but, again, ALL the girls are white! BTW, I love/loved all these shows!
Now I'm finishing "GATE" (going to the final episode of the first season), and, for my surprise, even it not being an ecchi/fan service show, it features lots and lots of male individuals with dark skin (the majority of them, again!)! Some of them are REALLY dark! But are there any female with dark skin? NO! NOT-A-SINGLE-ONE! Just like the others! It's not an ecchi/fan service show, but it's a harem show, and it does have a few fan service. Actually, just not to say there aren't any, in this last episode that I watched, the 11th episode, a new female character appeared, a dark elf, and, as the name implies, her skin is dark, brown (the first and possibly only dark-skinned female in the show!), but only because she is a DARK elf; if she weren't a dark elf, I'm sure they'd have made her as white as all the other girls. She is beautiful and cute, BTW.
The only kind of shows that you will see the male characters as white as the girls (or in equal numbers of dark-skinned individuals of both genres) are non-ecchi, non-fan service, non-harem shows, like "Attack on Titan"; or games like Genshin Impact, that, thankfully, now, has a number of beautiful and cute dark-skinned female characters!
But when you see all those dark-skinned male characters in ecchi/fan-service/harem shows - specially when there are PLENTY of them -, while ALL the girls are ALWAYS white, it always annoys me. It's ridiculous, as it's impossible in any society of the world only male individuals being born with dark skin (specially when they are the majority), while all the women being born white! It's impossible, and it's ridiculous!
I would REALLY like to ask ANY ecchi/harem anime producer/artist why they do that? Why, as it's impossible something like this to exist anywhere in the world! These dark-skinned male individuals don't even represent the typical Japanese man, as most Japanese people have white skin, males and females alike. I'd REALLY like to know their answer! I'm pretty sure I know the reason why (the unfortunate reason), but I die with curiosity to know what they'd answer! I'd like to have the opportunity to ask that to at least one of them!
blooregardo
over 1 year agoTrit
over 1 year agoWell, I have noticed that, indeed, but it does not particularly annoy me (as much as it does for you). I know that most Japanese consider as the top of the beauty to have the whitest skin tone as possible (hence the geishas’ white make-up). It must be because of that.
There are some exceptions, though (foreigners, or some Okinawan girls), but the explanation is hard to believe in some cases: Hayase Nagatoro or Uruka Takemoto (BokuBen) seem to have a permanent tan, just because they practice swimming. Well, why would still be tanned… in winter, or if their school pool is indoors??? There is no reason for their tan to last so long!
On the contrary: why girls never get tanned/sunburned after/during the mandatory beach episode (except for Azusa Nakano)?
Thorcsf
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ALL ecchi and harem animes - all of them, no exceptions - do that thing of making many or most male characters with dark skin, but they don't make ANY female character with dark skin, none whatsoever! ALL white!
What I REAAAALLY would like to ask ANY - at least one! - of the creators/producers/artists of these kinds of anime is simply: "Why are there so many male characters with dark skin and not a single female character with dark skin??"
But if I had the opportunity to ask more, or elaborate more, that question could be separated into:
1) Why many or most male characters have dark skin when it doesn't represent most Japanese man?
2) Why are all the women and girls white if there are so many male characters with dark skin?
3) Why aren't the male characters as white as the girls?
4) Or why don't make a few female characters with dark skin as well? Not a single one?
But I'm almost sure I know the reason. But I would really like to have the opportunity to ask that to any creator/producer/artist of these kinds of anime to know what they'd have to say. An actual, proper answer, not an elusive, short, senseless excuse (please, I'm not talking about your answer).
I will explain to you what is that annoys me so much. The matter of the lack of dark-skinned girls in such media alone is not really what annoys me. I do wish and I'd really like to see a few, some, in these kinds of shows; I actually miss that. But that matter alone is not what really annoys me.
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Years ago, when I was still starting to get into ecchi/harem animes and eroges, and didn't know Pixiv and Yande.re yet, I didn't pay attention to that. But as I started watching more and more ecchi and harem animes, discovering more eroges, doujinshi, and discovering Pixiv and Yande.re and having access to much more hentai and such illustrations that I'd never had before (in the amount/frequency that I do now), I started to notice that a lot, and it started to bother me. Specially after I learned some things:
A couple years ago I watched a video on YouTube of a very charismatic and funny Chinese man that has been living in my country, Brazil, for a few years now, and he learned and speaks my language well. On his channel he talks about life in China Vs. in Brazil, costumes in both countries, and things and peculiarities about China and my country. And the subject of this particular video was "beauty standards in China Vs. in the West". One of the beauty standards in China that he mentioned was white skin, the whiter, the more beautiful it is. The beauty standards in China are pretty much the same in Japan and Korea as well. So, after that, I started to think... "If they find white skin more beautiful, the whiter, the more beautiful it is, then what about the contrary? The darker, less white would be less beautiful or ugly/uglier? Isn't that kinda racist? Or could lead to racism?
Some time after that I saw an illustration on Yande.re of a foursome (two guys with two girls). The girls were very beautifully drawn, and they were very beautiful as well; but the guys... they were horrendous! And very badly drawn. The drawing of the guys and the drawing of the girls didn't even appear to have been made by the same artist, the so much different in quality and beauty that they were! I posted a comment asking why would the artist do that and ruin such a beautiful picture with guys so horrendous and badly drawn, making such a contrast with the beautiful and beautifully drawn girls, mentioning that the guys and the girls didn't even appear to have been drawn by the same artist. One guy answered me saying that the Asian men liked that in such illustrations, they like to see ugly guys fucking beautiful girls, because many of these men find themselves ugly as well, so they think, "If that(those) ugly guy(s) can pick up and have sex with such beautiful girls, then I can too!" He gave other explanations as well for the ugly and badly drawn guys in the picture, but that first explanation was that intrigued me the most, as it's totally contrary to what I think. I think that those horrendous and badly drawn guys ruin a beautiful picture and make it less pleasant to look at. Also when I see a guy(s) fucking a girl(s), I like to imagine myself there in his(their) place, and I don't want to be represented/be compared to an horrendous guy! I prefer much more to be compared/be represented by a fine or normal looking man.
So, you just make the math:
1) They think that white/whiter = beautiful/more beautiful;
2) so, by that, you assume that they think that dark/darker skin = ugly/uglier/less attractive;
3) Asian men like to see ugly/horrendous guys in sexual interactions/intercourse with girls;
4) almost all erotic/pornographic Japanese-style illustrations and doujinshi, eroges, etc. feature dark-skinned men copulating with white girls. Saving some exceptions (like the one here in this post), the girls are always white and the guys are always dark-skinned, or have a darker skin than the girl(s), or, as I mentioned before, have unrealistic dark skin tones, like clay, rock, or something worse.
So you just add 1+1 and you now reach the conclusion why most erotic/pornographic Japanese-style illustrations, doujinshi, eroges, etc. feature dark-skinned men copulating with white girls. And, for the same reason, why ALL ecchi/harem animes feature dozens, hundreds, of dark-skinned male characters while ALL the girls are ALWAYS white! Even if it's unrealistic, ridiculous and impossible anywhere in the world!
That conclusion is even more reinforced by reports I've read of immigrants in Japan that constantly suffer or have suffered racism or xenophobia there, specially dark-skinned immigrants, specially from SE Asian countries like the Philippines.
You see now what annoys me so much? I abominate racism, and I will never tolerate that!
Do you understand now why I said in the beginning that it always annoyed me, but I was always afraid to talk about that? Because of that subject. It's sad. But for years I always wanted to talk about it with someone, somewhere, but never had the opportunity, and I was always afraid.
As I said before, the matter of lack of dark-skinned female characters in ecchi and harem shows alone is not really what bothers or annoys me (although I do miss it and would like it). I would have never complained about that or got annoyed about that if the male characters in these shows were also all white like the women. The problem, what really annoys me, is them making dozens, hundreds of dark-skinned male characters in these kinds of anime (often the majority of them) while all the girls, all the women being white - even if it's an absurd, impossible thing anywhere in the world -, and the reason for that. :(
I'm always perplexed that they still do that in these animes, even in the 21st century, even in the 2020's, specially considering that anime is such a popular media worldwide, even in the West! How come no-one else sees what I see and is bothered, annoyed by that? How come no-one else complains and speaks up against it? Specially Westerners. Specially those SJW Westerners that like to speak up against fictional underage characters in erotic/pornographic Japanese illustrations and the like, and I don't even mind that; I even like a few loli pictures, but racism is something I will never accept and will never tolerate!
Why can't they make a few dark-skinned girls in these shows? Why never one or two at least? There are so many beautiful dark-skinned girls in other kinds of anime or anime-style games, like Nessa, in Pokémon, Dehya and the others in Genshin Impact; Coconut is one of the most popular girls in NEKOPARA. Heck, Nagatoro is so popular now, and she is so cute, even if she is not naturally dark-skinned...
Well, anyway, I love all kinds of Japanese-style erotic/pornographic illustrative content and I also love ecchi and harem anime, and I always will, even with that problem. I'd just like that they stopped doing that. :(
So sorry for another wall of text (if you have read this far). But I think I've said everything that I wanted (that was stuck in chest for so long and I wanted to speak about it with someone, somewhere), so (hopefully) there isn't going be another one.
Well, the first, most obvious and most animeist explanation I can give you for that is that they never change the appearance of anime characters (including their skin color/tan); just like that they never grow older, no matter how much time passes. It's an anime cliché. Even if a character does get tanned/sun-burned in an episode, they will return to their standard/usual appearance in the next episode. XD
Now I will give you the actual, real explanation. What you said is not impossible. I don't know where you live, or if you ever frequented the beach in summer for many days in a roll. I live in a tropical country, it's very hot here and the sun is harsh in the summer. Read more...Although I live in a coastal city with nice beaches, I rarely frequent the beach in my city. But many years ago I used to travel with my family to a touristic city a few hours away from my city, where there are many more beaches and much better ones. We used to stay there for two weeks, going to beaches every day and spending hours there every day. It was enough for my skin color (which is very white) to become VERY tanned, like Nagatoro's. After our vacation ended and we returned home, the tan on my skin lasted for MONTHS! Even with no more sun bathes! So, if Nagatoro's and that Uruka Takemoto's tan lasts the whole winter, it's not impossible if they got that tan for several days in a roll, accumulating it for days of sun bathes until their skin becomes really brown with lovely tan lines. ^^
Actually there's one anime at least that there's a beach episode where ALL girls get lovely tans and lovely tan lines! 😍 It's episode 3 of the OVAs of To LOVE-Ru's first season, "Welcome to the Southern Resort!!": https://imgur.com/a/CtyO5TW.
yrumddldluxduzrf
over 1 year agoTrit
over 1 year agoWell, I live in France (near the Mediterranean Sea), you should know that since the decolonizations in the 1960’s, we count a non-negligible non-White population (especially Black, Arabic and Asian). And both mixed couples and mixed breed children are not uncommon, in particular in our biggest cities.
As for me, I used to get a light tan on my forearms during my summer holidays when I was a kid, but I don’t remember it lasted more than a month after going back to school, in the beginning of September.
This is a really light tan, here! But thanks.
You’re right: this comment area is not the best place to have such a conversation.
Thorcsf
over 1 year agoThanks for reading my other wall of text. XD It's always good to talk with like-minded people. :)
The big diversity in France is something that I really admire. I am aware that there are many black and Arabic people living in your country, as well as mixed couples and mixed children, like in Brazil as well. France was once one of the biggest stages for the ultimate and most shameful racism-based crime against humanity; but today it's a free country with one of the biggest ethnic diversities in the world; and the French people is always fighting for justice, since the French Revolution, until this day.
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Because of the big amount of slaves that were brought to Brazil in the past, people of color (dark-skinned) represent the majority of the population in Brazil today (9.1% of self-declared black and 47% of self-declared 'pardos' (mixed of white and black people)); white people are 43% of the population, as per the 2021 census. Because of the large amount of people of color and the miscegenation in Brazil, we don't make segregation and distinction of races here in the everyday life (not even in the penitentiaries, like they do in the US). I will not say that there isn't racism, of course there are isolated cases, as there is everywhere, but black (I suspect it's even more than 9.1%) and pardo people are so common here, as well as mixed couples, that we simply don't make distinctions.
I think whenever and wherever there are more diversity and miscegenation, the less racism there is; and, on the contrary, the less diversity and miscegenation, the more ignorance and racism there is. There's very little diversity and miscegenation in Japan, hence the big racism and xenophobia there. But I think more and more there are less racist Japanese people; the movie 'A Silent Voice' (Koe no Katachi) is a good example. Yet they still do that racist cliché in erotic/pornographic illustrations and in ecchi/harem anime, even in the 21st century and the 2020's. But I hope it changes over time, with the new generations that are more and more aware and globalized.
Yeah, it's because it's a one-day tan only. But, hey, it's sexy nonetheless, you can see the tan lines over their breasts and shaved pussies! Sexy! XD
Be well and have a great day! 👋