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https://yande.re/post/show/1083848

In my opinion, I don't agree with avoiding posting pictures of artists who used AI once. I think we should judge by each picture. We also need to classify the use of AI, and I think it's also necessary to allow some in the future.
In the old days, there was a trend that a digital painting that did not use paint couldn't be called a painting. But now it has become the norm. Similarly, big innovations take time to accept.

hiroimo2 said:
We also need to classify the use of AI, but I think it is also necessary to allow some in the future.

AI-assisted is not the same thing as entirely AI-generated, indeed. I would agree to accept the former (as long as the most part of the work is of human origin), not the later. AI is a tool, after all.

Trit said:
AI-assisted is not the same thing as entirely AI-generated, indeed. I would agree to accept the former (as long as the most part of the work is of human origin), not the later. AI is a tool, after all.

I hope you haven't misunderstood the definitions of "ai-assisted": https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/ai-assisted

This tag is for pictures that were initially ai-generated but then painted over or retouched by an artist.

Which means those so-called "artists" just edit what AI generated (not the other way around) and then claim those are their works.

So, nope, "ai-assisted" has no difference from "ai-generated".

hiroimo2 said:
We also need to classify the use of AI, but I think it is also necessary to allow some in the future.

As said previously, unless the AI themselves have the self-conscience to come up with the ideas of drawing stuff independently instead of being fed with orders from human beings (and then those human beings claim those are their own artworks), those "artworks" aren't real ones and so won't be allowed here.

AI-assisted = AI-redraw.

We define AI-generated work as work that meets the following criteria.

Illustrations

• An artwork in which all or most of the production process is carried out by AI.
• For example, an illustration created by combining specific prompts and posted with little to no editing, regardless of format (e.g. text, images).

If you edit/redraw everything you can avoid this tags.

moonian said:
As said previously, unless the AI themselves have the self-conscience to come up with the ideas of drawing stuff independently instead of being fed with orders from human beings (and then those human beings claim those are their own artworks), those "artworks" aren't real ones and so won't be allowed here.

Some artists seem to be using AI to add effects to their pictures. It's hard to know how to judge this. Various effects and filters have been used in the pictures so far, and these functions are made to easily reproduce the technique of someone's. So in that sense, I think we'll be difficult to find any difference in using AI.

Personally I agree with hiroimo about this, but I do also understand the apprehension people have about allowing AI on here.

I think you have to think about AI in same sense as how machinery has taken away a good chunk the jobs where you used to use your hands. Making cars (for example, even if not a very good one) used to be done by hand, but are now put together by machinery, yet even so, some people do still make cars by hand, even if it's mostly vintage cars.

I have dabbled around with AI myself, but I never post it, mostly because it's not very good, but also because I wish to draw my own stuff someday and not be known for making AI, which would be... bad for my *ahem* (future) reputation :P

moonian said:
So, nope, "ai-assisted" has no difference from "ai-generated".

I disagree. AI-generated = 100% AI; AI-assisted = partially AI, partially human; so it's obviously different. I also don't think that Trit misunderstood anything. He said, "as long as the most part of the work is of human origin", which, in my understanding, means that more than 50% of it should be human-made, not that it should be initially drawn by human and then finished by AI.

Also there are those artists that actually create the work and just use AI to add effects or color, or to draw "boring" (as I saw one of them mentioning it once) or repetitive parts of pictures.

I personally don't mind the use of AI, as long as the result is beautiful and do not have faults. There are so many beautiful photorealistic AI pictures of incredibly beautiful and perfect girls on DeviantArt recently that are very eye-catching and very fap-worth, that no actual photo of girl could be so beautiful and perfect!

But of course I agree that entirely AI-made pictures should not be allowed here.

I'm thinking of Azto_dio, one of the top rated artists on this board for years. Recently he got into making a game and admitted to using AI in production. Danbooru has been tagging his art as "AI assisted" lately, so basically by the rules here he is blacklisted.

Not that I want to debate set policy. Already yandere has to freeze new signups because of having to deal with board abuse.

Thorcsf said:
I also don't think that Trit misunderstood anything. He said, "as long as the most part of the work is of human origin", which, in my understanding, means that more than 50% of it should be human-made, not that it should be initially drawn by human and then finished by AI.

Weeeeell… It was quite a bit what I was thinking about, TBH.

Genex said:
Already yandere has to freeze new signups because of having to deal with board abuse.

Again?!

Genex said:
I'm thinking of Azto_dio, one of the top rated artists on this board for years. Recently he got into making a game and admitted to using AI in production. Danbooru has been tagging his art as "AI assisted" lately, so basically by the rules here he is blacklisted.

Tbf, it seems like Azto using AI quite heavily, at least by style of works, from coloring to body lines.
He seem to at least make some work, to not let any fck-ups to go through, but I can't fine his works enjoyable anymore, despite liking a lot of his previous stuff.

Trit said:
Again?!

I'm just going by the forum topic on sign-ups. If sign-ups have been re-enabled and I didn't catch it, my bad.