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@onionsdn 你是沒錢贊助fanbox嗎? 這個繪師的Fanbox我已經贊助過,他作畫的PSD圖層都是手繪的,上次給你機會用24小時證明用AI輔助的話請拿出證據佐證你也沒辦到,建議mod封鎖這個用戶
推特就已經有影片了,連看都沒看還全部標記刪除,是來亂的嗎?
[補充] 不要亂修改藝術家訊息,請問mod這樣是可以給他負分嗎?
whitespace1 said:
推特就已經有影片了,連看都沒看還全部標記刪除,是來亂的嗎?
[補充] 不要亂修改藝術家訊息,請問mod這樣是可以給他負分嗎?
已PM該用戶,讓他在這裡提供證據。
moonian said:
已PM該用戶,讓他在這裡提供證據。
圖片被刪掉了,所以他是提交證據了?
"I don't think artists are obligated to provide their entire creative process unless their initial creative direction involves the use of AI-assisted tools, or there is suspicion of having used AI-assisted tools. It's impolite to inquire of the artist whether their creation involved the use of AI, as some people might use detection tools to determine if an image was AI-generated. However, it's widely known that the accuracy of such detection tools is highly unreliable. Therefore, judgment should be based on past works rather than solely relying on artistic style and the Hive AI Detector to draw conclusions. Initially, I also had doubts, but at least the artist's released PSD layers and creation process records on FANBOX are credible. Furthermore, the artist's works on pixiv have not been labeled as AI-assisted. If the artist could provide evidence that they indeed used AI-assisted tools to create the deleted image, I would have nothing to say. However, the issue is that the artist directly marked the image for deletion without even presenting evidence, and the image was indeed deleted. This user can simply label an image as AI-assisted based on their subjective judgment, and this irresponsible behavior gives me a solid reason to no longer share any images here from today unless this user is banned."
whitespace1 said:
圖片被刪掉了,所以他是提交證據了?
不知道,這是由blooregardo刪除的
moonian said:
不知道,這是由blooregardo刪除的
是因為中文討論blooregardo沒注意到就D掉了嗎....
感覺Post跟Artist都來來往往很多次編輯卻沒有實際討論與證明AI作畫與否
只是單方面拗執認為是AI協助作畫作品就立標請求刪除
只要這個onionsdn用戶沒被ban掉的一天,我不會再上傳任何圖片在這邊,以後各種一手圖片就等好心人去分享吧
whitespace1 said:
只要這個onionsdn用戶沒被ban掉的一天,我不會再上傳任何圖片在這邊,以後各種一手圖片就等好心人去分享吧
已暫時恢復這些圖片

@blooregardo: Do NOT blindly delete stuff just because someone flagged them!
moonian said:
已暫時恢復這些圖片

@blooregardo: Do NOT blindly delete stuff just because someone flagged them!
這不是blooregardo的錯,他只是做了mod份內該做的事,至少他偶爾還會審核low-res的圖片,有問題的是onionsdn這個用戶,上回也是他標記刪除這個藝術家是AI生成,重點是他證據都拿不出來也沒去求證,只會靠鍵盤滑鼠就標記刪除,如果圖片有使用AI輔助的疑慮我是會毫不猶豫直接付費求證去看psd圖層,如果只是單純靠檢測工具跟肉眼揣測當然很難辨別是否有用過的痕跡,但是不能在沒有十足證據的情況下就標記,今天如果你懷疑某個繪師他使用AI輔助,不好意思問他你可以直接在他的pixiv圖片下方加上AI生成 tag,藝術家自然就會作出澄清,這是最簡單又最沒品的方法。
@whitespace1 Where exactly do you find their Fanbox, at least it's not linked to their pixiv or listed under the names aria or ariacue?
sacchisan said:
@whitespace1 Where exactly do you find their Fanbox, at least it's not linked to their pixiv or listed under the names aria or ariacue?
It's extremely indirect to get that link:
Twitter/X's link on Pixiv page --> skeb's link on twitter/X page --> Fanbox's link on skeb page: https://ariacue.fanbox.cc/
moonian said:
It's extremely indirect to get that link:
Twitter/X's link on Pixiv page --> skeb's link on twitter/X page --> Fanbox's link on skeb page: https://ariacue.fanbox.cc/
Thanks
我想提醒各位用戶,artists資訊不是讓用戶主張繪師有使用AI嫌疑的地方 ,應該是在評論區提出來跟大家討論,而不是透過Hive tool這類不準確的工具跟自己在網路上的判斷就逕自添加修改藝術家訊息。
以前有看到還會幫忙補artists資訊的Links,繪師pixiv/twitter主頁
不過常常不明原因被移除就越來越懶,誰都能修改資料自然有好有壞
fairyren said:
以前有看到還會幫忙補artists資訊的Links,繪師pixiv/twitter主頁
不過常常不明原因被移除就越來越懶,誰都能修改資料自然有好有壞
目前網站系統的版本過時,Artists資料功能沒有好像danbooru那樣有記錄編輯歷史(被破壞時可及時察覺並和回退),要等Checkmate有空時才可能會更新
之前加註翻譯還被替換掉,我也懶得再補了,Checkmate不開放新用戶註冊也是美意,這裡搞破壞的人太多了,這二年多來我花了不少錢在飯盒跟各種贊助平台上分享好圖在這裡,看的人多,鼓勵的人少(就幾個常上傳的會互相鼓勵

特別是K站圖源被封殺(剩patreon)後我常常覺得我一直花錢買圖幹嘛,在這邊等不到24小時就有fanbox跟fantia的圖片上傳到這邊了,這麼好康的事情為什麼我要一直做下去? 在這邊受氣又得不到什麼榮譽跟實質的鼓勵,分享圖片我做了,photoshop去字去水印去黑海苔我都學了把好的東西都放在這邊了,做了那麼多等級還是一樣,感覺自己像個傻逼,應該要轉職免費仔坐等收圖就好。
這裡的圖片一開始就是從各種版權掃圖起家的
那些版權掃圖也是要花錢還要花心力修圖
以前的AP跟MT不但要上傳拿點數才能下圖還限定只能是掃圖或是官方圖
AP甚至還有花錢贊助網站拿點數
只有這裡始終一直都是靠某些人的佛系分享
在這邊計較貢獻有沒有得到回報有什麼意義