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Ugh.
Isn't this considered futanari and or yuri Radioactive?
I'll remove tagme by the way...
Isn't there a tag for this kinf of internal view ?
I always find these drawings particulary amazing !
x-ray radecfr, and that's one of like 2-3 that is normally used to describe it.
I think I'm missing something : I can't find this tag.
There isn't such a tag. Never will be either.
RaDecFr said:
I think I'm missing something : I can't find this tag.
Use danbooru, they have tons of it.
Yande is good enough ! :D
I'm just wondering why we don't have the tag here whereas we have the corresponding pictures.
But that's a detail.
RaDecFr said:
Yande is good enough ! :D
I'm just wondering why we don't have the tag here whereas we have the corresponding pictures.
But that's a detail.
Because Danbooru went way overboard with the number of tags that it has, and it caused the mods here to become allergic to them. :) So, yande.re errs on the side of having too few. Personally, I'd prefer more of a happy medium, but no such luck. Still, much as I'd prefer to have more tags here, at least we generally only have hires images here, unlike places like Danbooru which will let all kinds of trash in.
Well...unless you feel like creating the tag and maintaining it as well as going through every image here on this site for the purpose of that tag, it'll be a(an) useless tag.
AZD-A9S said:
Well...unless you feel like creating the tag and maintaining it as well as going through every image here on this site for the purpose of that tag, it'll be a(an) useless tag.
I don't think that it is possible to see every image on this site ! :D Creating and maintaining is OK.
And if there are only few pictures concerned, I think it's OK if there is no "x-ray" tag.
God kills a kitty every time someone adds a useless tag.
Can you give us a good example of a tag that should be created? I myself can't think of anything. Am I the only one that thinks the tags are enough?
Well i always wanted a "scenic" tag (like that one used at Konachan) for tagging images that aren't actually landscapes but the subject is the scenario not the character.

It may come in handy for pictures like post #21844, post #217382 or even post #199296.
Eridani, for that, exists the tag landscape, or something like that, I guess.
traditional_media is a good idea.
I know the tag landscape exist, really...
But i said for those that are not actually landscapes.
My point is even if the tag landscape is for that now, those pics still are not landscapes.

Yet i understand that there is not a true demand for background focused pics here in yande.re as it is a community focused on moe/imoutos/girl characters/etc. from the very beginning; therefore, this level of specialization may not be necessary.

But i know about the landscape tag. spoiler
  • Because we don't have any tags to specify to make sub categories in the landscape umbrella term. Which is why sometimes tags like landscape seem subjective at times (it's not like pantsu, which is obvious). Also I would say many of the users do not actually know if using certain tags are correct to their intended usage at times too. But i'm not about to start using subtags into landscape like, cityscape, snowscape etc.
  • So if we were to define it strictly to an ideal tag, many of our landscaping should be scrapped since there exist characters in them. But the focus on most, still is scenery rather than the character.
  • Here is one where the character covers probably more character than a scenery - post #135907
  • Then here is one where it becomes quite questionable if it's a scenery or just background - post #195901
  • Simply, our tags are not all encompassing and some of them are subject to a users personal decision, which we hope they are informed. Tag updates is very time consuming to implement especially specific tags where a replacements are not compatible. If you could propose a solid plan of action i'd be happy to hear it.
Debbie said:
Can you give us a good example of a tag that should be created? I myself can't think of anything. Am I the only one that thinks the tags are enough?
Personally, I think that there should be enough tags on an image to be able to describe it well enough that if you can remember what's in the image, you stand a good chance of being able to find it quickly and easily via the tags without having to sort through hundreds if not thousands of images which have the same set of tags. The trick is not going overboard with tags that are so specific that they don't get used much and aren't remembered as well as avoiding having a million tags for every image (which in many cases probably means picking a subset of the tags which actually apply - particularly if there are a lot of characters in the image with lots of different outfits and whatnot). For instance, having tags for more types of clothing would be useful as long as they had appropriately clear definitions - e.g. sweater, scarf, or gloves might be nice. But something describing the type of sleeves would probably be getting too specific (e.g. Danbooru seems to have over half a dozen tags just for types of sleeves - that's too much). Tags for hair color or hair length might be nice, but that risks getting out of hand if you're not careful. It would have to be kept to a small subset of colors and probably just long_hair vs short_hair for the length. The difficult thing with tags is treading the line between being nice and descriptive and having way too many tags to deal with.

Clearly, the mods here favor being minimal with tags (to the point that they're not necessarily all that descriptive and many images have almost no tags at all), and some of the mods seem to think that general tags are pretty useless. Whereas I wouldn't think that much of any tags are useless unless they don't describe anything about the picture (in which case, it's obviously not an appropriate tag). It's just that you don't want tags which are too specific to be used much or remembered. Some mods also seem to be of the opinion that a tag is not useful unless every single image to which it could apply has it, which makes it almost impossible to add new tags, because any new tags are clearly only going to be applied to a subset of the images that they should be used on, because there are too many old images to sift through to find them all. Whereas I would think that creating a new tag that just gets used with new images is fine, especially if it does end up on at least some of the older ones over time.

In any case, I think that it's pretty clear that my take on tags is very much at odds with what the majority of the mods think.

As to your specific question, if I had to pick one tag to add that I would find useful that we don't currently have, it would be body_piercing.
Kalessin said:
As to your specific question, if I had to pick one tag to add that I would find useful that we don't currently have, it would be body_piercing.
I've been tempted to add a piercing tag before. Been thinking of making a casual_clothes tag too since it would cover a lot of the clothing that there currently isn't a tag for.
I can clearly see that you're all in for descriptive tags, Kalessin but what kind of tags do you expect to use that won't become too cumbersome nor too minimalistic? Either you can start using semi-subjective tags that can have many purpose but are wishy washy or have a straight out solid meaning.

From what i can tell from your suggestions, you'd like to introduce clothing articles, and from Vorpal is accessories. If i were to implement this, i'd start using categories and have subcategories that acts like a drop down menu but doesn't actually tag it from the image display nor the index. This could be a solution for those that have been begging for the twin-tail tag.

Ex.
  • Accessories ↴
    • Hairbow
    • Glasses
    • Headphones
    • Piercings
    • Tattoos
  • Clothing & Probably Style of Clothing too ↴
    • Seifuku
    • Summer Dress
    • Casual Clothes
      • Wa lolita
      • Steampunk
      • Gothic
just to name some examples. Could work similar to the new implementation of the drop down advance menus Edo added recently but is added toward the tagging UI with maybe some color representation like our tags now. Could solve all the issues i have with all the sexual tags.
I'd generally go for specific tags, though in some cases more general ones would be good. For instance, for some weapons (e.g. swords or guns), it's obvious what they are, and it's easy to tag them, but for some other weapons, it's not necessarily obvious what they are (especially if they're fantasty weapons or (like most people) you're not an expert in weapons). And in that case, having a simple weapon tag would cover it (possibly with sword and gun implying it similar to how bikini implies swimsuit). But I think that it becomes problematic if it's not clear what a tag means or it's too ambiguous. If it's at all ambigous, it should be in the sense that it's a more general tag which may or may not have sub-tags (like with swimsuits) rather than it just not being clear.

As for your drop-down list idea, I don't really understand it. A hierarchy doesn't necessarily sound like a bad idea, but I don't see a whole of point to tags if you can't search for them, and I would have thought that them not being in the index would mean that you couldn't search for them.
The tags can searchable but they will be under a umbrella term to save space for a cleaner interface.
Even thought i wanted a more specific application of "landscape" there are cases when so specific tags aren't enough. An example may be post #238878 where the character is clearly wearing shorts, and there aren't many other elements to define the image. Shorts tag is not present in the DB, bike_shorts exist but is too specific for being used.

So if there is a specific tag for certain situation there must exist also general tags which should be implicated and of course added automatically. The same way swimsuit is an implication of bikini, bike_shorts should implicate shorts, sword & gun imply weapon or wedding_dress & summer_dress involve dress.

Also is necessary to make these implication more flexible to all users, currently iirc only a mod can delete an implication, and so rigid implication rules aren't always the best.

A crude, and maybe controversial example may be post #109634 (i'm sure there are better ones out there). In this case shimapan may be used without much trouble even if she isn't wearing true pantsu; the actual tagging logic allows that, i mean post #199296 isn't a landscape
These long discussions should be in the forum, makes it easier to see