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Vincent Valentine is one of the coolest characters in FFVII
This is one of the coolest picture i have seen!
This picture is INSANELY AWESOME !!

totally honours vincent´s coolness...thanks a lot to the guy that uploaded it !!
ohohohh Tetsuya Nomura himself! :D no wonder why it's so awesome he's the main character designer in FFVII (and I think other FFs as well)
If a complete excesss of the following things makes a designer awesome, well... :

-zippers.
-belts.
-gay.
-girl-ish lips.
-other unnecessary addons.

I personally prefer Yoshitaka Amano for Final Fantasy.
If you believe Yoshitaka Amano does not draw girly men, or put "unnecessary addons" onto his characters, you must be thinking of some totally different artist.

"Female traits = Gay" is such a trite generalization I don't even know where to start. You might as well just say "All Guys That Women Find Attractive = Gay" because that is always what people mean by it.
No, I really mean it when I say "gay".

Compare Locke with Cloud.

Locke looks kinda weird, but you can notice he's a man... and a cool man.
You see Cloud... UGH.

Amano tries to design chars that try to resemble the "fantasy" part of the FF games. Nomura is just another random animu designer which was lucky to design a bunch of overrated emos.
what's wrong with Cloud and Vincent...? O.o Tetsuya did a great job! they are coolest characters in FFs
Vincent is great! Really masculine men are ugly >__<
Azarel said:
Vincent is great! Really masculine men are ugly >__<
Okay, I admit it. Vincent is like one of the very few non-failures from Nomura.

The official coolest FF chars:

-The warrior.
-The black mage.
-The onion kid.
-Cecil.
-Cid.
-Galuf.
-Cole.
-KEFKA.
-Sabin.
-Cyan.
-Any other created by Amano.
-Laguna (yep, another exception from Nomura).

Out of that... nada.
whatever >_> I don't give a care what do you think about Tetsuya and his designs :P I just know that his characters are one of the best in FFs and nothing can change my mind U.U
kyoushiro said:
No, I really mean it when I say "gay".
So because you don't like how a character looks, that means they're homosexual? And if they were homosexual, that would be bad how? If you like yuri, you're pretty much negating yourself anyways.
well....a lot of guys do like yuri but that doesn't mean we like yaoi...and in some way it is bad for a hero(male one) to be gay.....at least that is how guys think about(well I am not saying there aren't exceptions)....
Chikane said:
well....a lot of guys do like yuri but that doesn't mean they like yaoi...and in some way it is bad for a hero(male one) to be gay.....at least that is how guys think about(most of them)....
at what point of the game ff7 did they mention Cloud is gay? because seriously I can't remember such a part and I've played the game through...
I didn't say he's gay (and that isn't my point) kyoushiro did,for Vincent too
For what I said, I didn't mean gay as homosexual... but gay as fag.

okay, I'll change my words: Nomura's designs aren't gay, they're horrible, generic, overloaded pieces of crap.

Unfortunately, during the 32 bit era he was a big influence on a lot of designers, and during that time RPGs were filled with chars sharing the same horrible kind of designs.

And during the 128 bit era, fortunately, a lot of people got tired of that kind of designs and stuff tended to become more simple but better.

Of course, if you started playing RPGs with FF7 you'll think he's one of best designers ever.
kyoushiro said:
For what I said, I didn't mean gay as homosexual... but gay as fag.

okay, I'll change my words: Nomura's designs aren't gay, they're horrible, generic, overloaded pieces of crap.

Unfortunately, during the 32 bit era he was a big influence on a lot of designers, and during that time RPGs were filled with chars sharing the same horrible kind of designs.

And during the 128 bit era, fortunately, a lot of people got tired of that kind of designs and stuff tended to become more simple but better.

Of course, if you started playing RPGs with FF7 you'll think he's one of best designers ever.
I'd like to write a long comment on how I disagree with you but decided that I won't 'cause it wouldn't change anything. We both have our own opinions
Azarel said:
I'd like to write a long comment on how I disagree with you but decided that I won't 'cause it wouldn't change anything. We both have our own opinions
yeah...me too,when I just said Tetsuya have cool characters this dude started to insult him and his designs with some craps....but I don't remember I asked his or anybody elses opinion...if somebody hate something that others like he just need to shut up when he supose to,not to start some fights......>_>
Chikane said:
yeah...me too,when I just said Tetsuya have cool characters this dude started to insult him and his designs with some craps....but I don't remember I asked his or anybody elses opinion...if somebody hate something that others like he just need to shut up when he supose to,not to start some fights......>_>
Welcome to the internet. Unnecessary expression of opinions is what keeps this place running. As for the topic, I kinda agree with kyoushiro. I've never found Tetsuya's designs especially awesome in any way, they just look generic.
kyoushiro said:
For what I said, I didn't mean gay as homosexual... but gay as fag.
...you know those mean the same thing right? Except that "fag" is a derogatory term for "homosexual".