Bruh, those aren't even passable loli, those are just straight up kids, lol.

Guess, I'm blocking this author

What does that even mean? Those are text-book lolis.
So you can always block "loli" tag to avoid headaches in the future.

I don't understand why you would complain if you more than tolerate lolis, it's not like this is even close to toddlercon.
You can hate the author's style, but I really don't understand how you can say something like "they are straight up kids" when their proportions and style are all over unrealistic.

Deadhunt said:
Guess, I'm blocking this author

maybe resurrect the todcon tag to seperate the lolita lolis from the... this?

applied to "loli type characters with chubbier bodies and/or having limbs shorter than the torso" since there seems to be a clean morphological distinction in the character design.

anyannko is another yuck artist for your list.

Arknovalisk said:
What does that even mean? Those are text-book lolis.
So you can always block "loli" tag to avoid headaches in the future.

I don't understand why you would complain if you more than tolerate lolis, it's not like this is even close to toddlercon.
You can hate the author's style, but I really don't understand how you can say something like "they are straight up kids" when their proportions and style are all over unrealistic.

stop trying to "purity test" other people when you are dissonant enough that you cant even respond without adding the word toddlercon. you have no right or reason to condescend to other people like this, and you dont get to play gatekeeper. especially when it looks like you are only doing it to convince yourself of your claims.

perspective is a hell of a drug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM

I understand you, Deadhunt.
A todcon tag would be great, Abraxas. But I doubt that they would resurrect it. Just look at the extreme_content tag and how many things are meant for that.

Abraxas said:
maybe resurrect the todcon tag to seperate the lolita lolis from the... this?

applied to "loli type characters with chubbier bodies and/or having limbs shorter than the torso" since there seems to be a clean morphological distinction in the character design.

anyannko is another yuck artist for your list.

stop trying to "purity test" other people when you are dissonant enough that you cant even respond without adding the word toddlercon. you have no right or reason to condescend to other people like this, and you dont get to play gatekeeper. especially when it looks like you are only doing it to convince yourself of your claims.

perspective is a hell of a drug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM

That's some peak hypocrisy there.

BattlequeenYume said:Just look at the extreme_content tag and how many things are meant for that.

the e-c tag is the worst worded tag on this site by a very wide margin though. it's to the point of being self defeatingly silly that it covers nekopara h.

and also covers this images type of character design lolita type characters, who's "bodies that are far outside the realm of normal human proportion."

a much, much less ambiguous and clearer definition would be. "depicting recent disfiguring injury or impending acts or circumstances likely to result disfiguring injury."

Also, toddlercon don't apply to these. Those apply to toddlers, Mr. "I don't like lolis but I keep pretending I do".

Arknovalisk said:
That's some peak hypocrisy there.

very good, dear.

Arknovalisk said:
Also, toddlercon don't apply to these. Those apply to toddlers, Mr. "I don't like lolis but I keep pretending I do".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3az5cc7jZg

Abraxas said:
very good, dear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3az5cc7jZg

Moron.

You're factually wrong, but you don't even care, you just keep doing your underhanded ad-hominem instead of trying to make a point. Once again, you prove how much of a hypocrite moron you are.

@Arknovalisk Why do you have to be this aggressive?, can't you get your point accross in a less provocative way?

I go agree @Deadhunt these "Loli" looks way too young, maybe they're not at "toddler" level but they're for sure on the "younger" side of the loli age range(which is way too broad imho).

As another user said ultimately it's a matter of prospective, you can argue over semantics wether someone calls a character a loli or a toddler but you can't change their perception by arguing with their wording; try to read what they mean instead of picking on their vocabulary.

Personally I won't blacklist this artist but I don't like most his works either.

I'm not "this aggressive", I merely respond in kind.
First I point out that they are not "straight up kids", because that implies something that's just not the case here, and that saying they aren't "passable" as lolis is wrong, since they fall right into the definition in every way possible.
I don't really wanna change someone not being into lolis, especially the younger kind, but I can point out how he is a relatively famous loli artist among lolicons, and not regarded as a toddlercon artist.

The one being aggressive is Abraxas who has had a beef on the same topic with me in the past, it's just that instead of being open about his ad-hominem, he uses passive aggressive attacks, with humiliating wording and links on purpose to shit on me while pretending to be innocent.

Arknovalisk said:nonsense

telling you to stop policing other peoples taste in imagery and purity testing them to just bl loli because of your own oversensitive and exclusionary reactions is in no way aggressive.

you have now demanded of both me and several other people that we just BL a whole genra if we dont like your favourite examples of extreme divergence from human form.
these are to loli what feral is to furry.

Abraxas said:

these are to loli what feral is to furry.

No, this is to loli what furry is to furry. There's no extremity in this, this is mid-age-range lolis. I get that you can only look at borderline lolis, but no reason to lie about it, especially since I wasn't talking to you, but you had pent up frustration about being corrected in the past so you had to join the conversation and quote me with your usual low-key trashtalk.
And I didn't demand, I just SUGGESTED it, while telling him not to call something that is very far away from "straight up kids" just that.
And yes, you are passive aggressive and condescending all the time, despite acting dumb about it, so you have well earned being called a hypocrite.
And you even invent your moronic phases as if you had any kind of argument. At least play with open cards when resorting to ad-hominem.

Arknovalisk said:I didn't demand,

who mentioned demands?
the only ad-hom in any of our interaction is your use of the word moron. you are being hysterical, and if this site had a block user function i would have used it on you.

Abraxas said:
who mentioned demands?

Abraxas said:
you have now demanded of both me and several other people that we just BL a whole genra

Also, you are still playing dumb as you had planned, but sorry, I already pointed out your underhanded ad-hominems, using strawman and YouTube clips to get your attacks across while looking like you never did anything. And when I point this out, you call me hysterical - another nice little low-key insult. All this on top of literally only joining the comment section to be able to get back at me for earlier. Now stop playing innocent.
Jesus, what a mess you are.

Arknovalisk said:nonsense

your use of ad hom shows you dont really know what that means. its the act of putting in a word like moron, instead of explaining things.
your use of strawman shows you dont actually know what that means. that means to create a distraction that is easily broken in place of a given point.

your calling my use of the word hysterical as ad hom, shows you dont know what either of those mean. "affected by or deriving from wildly uncontrolled emotion." describes the way you have acted. which has made other users ask y u mad.

ad hom, would be to just call you a moron. maybe you can think where the ad hom is.

now, i have started being condescending and passive aggressive. that is why im deliberately describing things using small words in this post.

You really are good at playing dumb, but don't worry, you might convince others that you are not only bullshitting here (for anyone's information: you are), but like I already said, I see past your cowardly tactics, and I explained all of them.
You are once again text-book strawmanning hard by pretending you have defeated or refuted all my arguments, whereas you're making your usual mess of nonsense again, while continuing to pretend that you have never attacked my person, just because you did it indirectly, too bad I also pointed that out.
So you are an even bigger moron than I gave you credits for. No wonder you still hold your grudges over having been destroyed in the past.

A final advice to you: just blacklist lolis, if you hate them. ;)

Arknovalisk said:nonsense

a clear failing in your reasoning, is taking attacks against the things you like as personal attacks.
disparaging the deformed mutant midget things you call beautiful is not an attack on you. refusing to process that due to emotional attachment, and respond to with hostility, dissonance and claims of ad hom, is hysterics.

expecting all those you interact with to fit into an absolutist perspective of love all loli or hate all loli does no match with reality of personal taste/perspective or the lack of clear easy distinction in character design. that is not a strawman. its a false dichotomy in your own thinking you are refusing to deal with.

the subject of your interest is so far shifted from baseline human proportions that it can accurately be called extreme divergence due to needing congenital deformity to produce the same body form. your own suspension of disbelief may cover them, but that doesnt stop it going right through the uncanny valley and smashing right out the left side of the chart.

Yeah, when someone tries to sound smart (by the way, you are still saying so much actual, repetitive nonsense that I could award you the stupidest poster award of the month, sure of it) instead of trying to have a direct argument is when you know that there's no point talking with them.

Stay being a hypocrite and get offended by lolis for all I care then. But really you would be a less frustrated person if you just blacklisted lolis altogether - keep that in mind the next time you sperg out.