It's the eye of the tiger! I mean... the year of the tiger. :)

It will be from 1st February until 21st January 2023, actually.

I know it's not like the Gregorian calendar exactly, I knew it didn't start yet, just didn't know the exact date. But artists are already celebrating the year of the tiger as 2022 with illustrations like this anyway, as they always do every year since the beginning of January, as even though the Chinese have their particular calendar and Zodiac, January 1st is still officially the beginning of the year worldwide, and Asian people, naturally, follow the rest of the world.

BTW, since you seem to be informed, what happens between 21st of January and 1st of February then? They are not counted? Does the Chinese calendar have less than 365 days and 6 hours? I know the Mayan calendar have like 360 days, if I'm not mistaken, and those other 5 days are called the "unnamed days", or something like that, where, according to their belief, the gates to the Underworld are opened, but they still give 365 days between the start of every year (I learned that in Tomb Raider: Underworld, LOL).

But if the Chinese calendar have 10 days less than the Gregorian calendar that are not counted, the four seasons of the year, Spring, Summer, Autumn, and Winter would not match the same time of the year every year, like in the Gregorian calendar, as they last exactly 365 days and 6 hours. 🤔

@Thorcsf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_calendar :

Days begin and end at midnight, and months begin on the day of the new moon. Years start on the second (or third) new moon after the winter solstice. Solar terms govern the beginning and end of each month. A sexagenary cycle consists of stems (干, ‘’gān’’) and branches (支, ‘’zhī‘’) is used as identification alongside each year and month; including intercalary months or leap months. The length of a month is also annotated as either long (大, literally “big” for months with 30 days) or short (小, literally “small” for months with 29 days).

In other words: to put it simple (from observing the resulting effects), you still get 12 months each year in general in the Chinese Calendar, but with less days each month compared with the Georgian Calendar. So, when the Chinese New Year's day got "pushed" too early (towards the New Year's Day of the Georgian Calendar), you usually get a leap month inserted somewhere during that Chinese Calendar year, "pulling back" the New Year's day of the next Chinese year.

moonian said:
@Thorcsf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_calendar :

Thanks, but too complicated to understand. :P
So you mean that the Chinese New Year's day is not always the same every year (in accordance to the Gregorian calendar)? I also didn't understand much about that leap month; if the Chinese calendar has 10 days less than the Gregorian calendar, how could they add a "leap month" if every Chinese month has 29 or 30 days? That'd be too much to skip. And what about the four seasons that I asked? Does the Chinese calendar can keep them aligned with with each year's period and duration with that leap month thing? Because, as I said, the four seasons last exactly 365 days and 6 hours (and, as you probably know, they add an additional day in February every four years to compensate for that additional 6 hours of every year), but the Chinese calendar is shorter.

Years start on the second (or third) new moon after the winter solstice.

And why is that? Why second or third?

Thorcsf said:
Thanks, but too complicated to understand. :P
So you mean that the Chinese New Year's day are not always the same every year (in accordance to the Gregorian calendar)?

Correct, as they are different calendar systems.

Thorcsf said:
I also didn't understand much about that leap month; if the Chinese calendar has 10 days less than the Gregorian calendar, how could they add a "leap month" if every Chinese month has 29 or 30 days? That'd be too much to skip.

The leap month isn't inserted to every Chinese calendar year - what I observed is, when the current Chinese New Year's Day falls into January, one would expect there's going to be a leap month somewhere during this year, and so the New Year's Days of the next few years will be kept in February (i.e. no leap month for those years).

As for the method of calculating the insertion of a leap month - sorry but I have zero knowledge about that.

Update: Not sure if this section (and maybe the rest) of the article explains what you tried to ask: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercalation_(timekeeping)#Lunisolar_calendars

Thorcsf said:
And what about the four seasons that I asked? Does the Chinese calendar can keep them aligned with with each year's period and duration with that leap month thing? Because, as I said, the four seasons last exactly 365 days and 6 hours (and, as you probably know, they add an additional day in February every four years to compensate for that additional 6 hours of every year), but the Chinese calendar is shorter.

No worries, as there's something called "solar term" in the system (that's why the system is a lunisolar calendar as mentioned in the Chinese calendar link)

Thorcsf said:
And why is that? Why second or third?

The same article has actually explained it (in the "Chinese New Year" section): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_calendar#Chinese_New_Year

And if you want the dates for the current and 11 next years and signs, they are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_New_Year#Dates_in_Chinese_lunisolar_calendar

moonian said:

Thank you very much for the extensive explanation and your efforts to search/gather all that information. You've covered all of my queries and I think I've got the grasp of everything now, although it's a complicated calendar system. :P

There's only one thing that I didn't quite understand yet. By what I read there on Wikipedia, when a leap month is inserted, they apparently repeat one month in the year; but each month in the Chinese calendar has 29 or 30 days. A leap month can't be this long, right? It'd be too much to add in the year. What is the duration of a leap month exactly? I didn't see that information. Does it vary by year?

Trit said:
And if you want the dates for the current and 11 next years and signs, they are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_New_Year#Dates_in_Chinese_lunisolar_calendar

Many thanks. :) Interesting fact is that is that the Chinese zodiac has the same number of signs as the Western/Greek zodiac. Could it be a coincidence or is it for the same reason (the number of constellations seen in the ecliptic) of the Greek zodiac? Although in the Greek zodiac all 12 signs are comprehended in each year, every year, but in the Chinese zodiac, it's one sign for each year.

Thorcsf said:
Thank you very much for the extensive explanation and your efforts to search/gather all that information. You've covered all of my queries and I think I've got the grasp of everything now, although it's a complicated calendar system. :P

There's only one thing that I didn't quite understand yet. By what I read there on Wikipedia, when a leap month is inserted, they apparently repeat one month in the year; but each month in the Chinese calendar has 29 or 30 days. A leap month can't be this long, right? It'd be too much to add in the year. What is the duration of a leap month exactly? I didn't see that information. Does it vary by year?

Yes, by "leap month", it really means inserting a whole extra month during that year. The effect can be seen from the table from the link Trit's mentioned above - if leap month exists during the current year, the next year's New Year's Day can be pushed back to as late as around mid Feb.

P.S. Don't forget a Chinese Calendar month has generally less day(s) than that of a Georgian Calendar month (except Feb), so the resulting effect won't be a whole Georgian Calendar month delay.

moonian said:
Yes, by "leap month", it really means inserting a whole extra month during that year. The effect can be seen from the table from the link Trit's mentioned above - if leap month exists during the current year, the next year's New Year's Day can be pushed back to as late as around mid Feb.

Sorry for the late answer. Wow, your are right, I haven't paid attention before, but now that you mentioned about the dates in that table, it's really a whole extra month every few years! As I said before, it's really a confuse calendar system. :P

moonian said:
P.S. Don't forget a Chinese Calendar month has generally less day(s) than that of a Georgian Calendar month (except Feb), so the resulting effect won't be a whole Georgian Calendar month delay.

Yes, like I said myself, 29-30 days instead of 30-31 in the Gregorian calendar. BTW, do note that the correct name is "Gregorian", not Georgian. The name comes from Pope Gregory XIII, who introduced this new calendar system in 1582 as a modification of the Julian calendar. ^^

Yande.re is also culture, man! LOL.

Thorcsf said:
BTW, do note that the correct name is "Gregorian", not Georgian. The name comes from Pope Gregory XIII, who introduced this new calendar system in 1582 as a modification of the Julian calendar. ^^

Yande.re is also culture, man! LOL.

Thanks for the correction (and the background info too) :D

看两个外国人讨论闰月(=ﾟДﾟ=)

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