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Hi, dutchago. you did good fix against wrinkles :) But I have a question. what filters are you using? the edges are much shaggy in my eyes. It may be caused by overfiltering surfaceblur or SGblur.
midzki said: Hi, dutchago. you did good fix against wrinkles :) But I have a question. what filters are you using? the edges are much shaggy in my eyes. It may be caused by overfiltering surfaceblur or SGblur.
I'm using Corel PhotoPaint, so I'm not familiar with the filters you're talking about (Photoshop equivalents?).
Editing gets much harder when you're dealing with screening effects or jpeg patterns, so for a case like this, that's the first thing that has to be fixed (unless you're doing simple spot fixes with the clone tool). I use a small Gaussian blur (maybe 0.5 pixel radius, for example) to blend the pixels together first just a bit to take the sharp edge off of adjacent pixels. Then I use SmartBlur (blends colors adjacent in color-space) for the final blending effect with as low a setting as is practical for the entire image, with spot fixes after that. It's the use of SmartBlur that creates jagged lines at some thresholds, because to smooth the bulk of the image requires fairly aggressive settings because of the screening effect. Unfortunately, this causes the filter to exaggerate the jagged edges already present in seams and lines.
The only way I know of to really fix this is to mask all the edges and blend those separately from the interior spaces with lighter settings. Obviously, though, this would require a significant amount of work, as I'd have to mask those edges by hand. To be honest, I'm not sure I'd have the stamina for that amount of work on one image.
I'll keep trying to improve my techniques. I'm still fairly new at this, so hopefully you guys will bear with me as I learn.
I gave greycstoration a try via the gimp plugin. That seemed to do a nicer job than the other filters I'd been using. I've posted another try, see #55425 for comparison with my last attempt (I'll delete the old version in the near future). I processed with greycstoration initially and then imported into my photopaint version for finishing. The lines are softer, but I don't think they've lost much detail.
It looks like no one's turned this into a photoshop-compatible plugin. Too bad, as I'm not really all that keen on switching to a totally new editor.
dutchago
almost 16 years agomidzki
almost 16 years agoBut I have a question. what filters are you using? the edges are much shaggy in my eyes. It may be caused by overfiltering surfaceblur or SGblur.
dutchago
almost 16 years agoEditing gets much harder when you're dealing with screening effects or jpeg patterns, so for a case like this, that's the first thing that has to be fixed (unless you're doing simple spot fixes with the clone tool). I use a small Gaussian blur (maybe 0.5 pixel radius, for example) to blend the pixels together first just a bit to take the sharp edge off of adjacent pixels. Then I use SmartBlur (blends colors adjacent in color-space) for the final blending effect with as low a setting as is practical for the entire image, with spot fixes after that. It's the use of SmartBlur that creates jagged lines at some thresholds, because to smooth the bulk of the image requires fairly aggressive settings because of the screening effect. Unfortunately, this causes the filter to exaggerate the jagged edges already present in seams and lines.
The only way I know of to really fix this is to mask all the edges and blend those separately from the interior spaces with lighter settings. Obviously, though, this would require a significant amount of work, as I'd have to mask those edges by hand. To be honest, I'm not sure I'd have the stamina for that amount of work on one image.
I'll keep trying to improve my techniques. I'm still fairly new at this, so hopefully you guys will bear with me as I learn.
Radioactive
almost 16 years agomidzki
almost 16 years agohttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4962/clipboard2yx1.png
surface blur (photoshop), selective gaussian blur (gimp), and smart blur are similar filters. I use them only supporting greycstoration.
dutchago
almost 16 years agoI gave greycstoration a try via the gimp plugin. That seemed to do a nicer job than the other filters I'd been using. I've posted another try, see #55425 for comparison with my last attempt (I'll delete the old version in the near future). I processed with greycstoration initially and then imported into my photopaint version for finishing. The lines are softer, but I don't think they've lost much detail.
It looks like no one's turned this into a photoshop-compatible plugin. Too bad, as I'm not really all that keen on switching to a totally new editor.
vistigris
almost 16 years agohttp://moe.imouto.org/forum/show/2007
dutchago
almost 16 years agoJoeCresent
about 12 years ago