Not sure if this belongs here... but thought I'd upload it. Interesting to see how Sayori goes from sketch to finish

Is there any sort of translation wanted tag?

No tag for Sion?

I'd add it, but her full name is too complicated.

This most likely doesn't belong here. I'll have to chat with some of the other mods about it.

But it has illustrations so...

I don't have any problems with it. Aurelia has removed 'shown in index' though.

would you mind to add a tag "example / guide" or something?
index pages / text aren't shown in index although, but it can be searched on pools, or tags.

happyhobo898 said:
Is there any sort of translation wanted tag?

it's not work because there are no translators here (even if I can, but translating mother language into foreign language takes extra time. I don't have enough time/energy to do it)

It should only have been removed from the index if it was part of a pool.

I would have preferred having the accompanying Tsukihime image with it (it's a bit too low res), but I don't mind it being here, so I've linked to that in the source instead of this one.

I'm always preferring technical/guidance/example matters to random moe images.
even if it's against moe's policy, I think they should retain, and should be established their links bacause they have possibility to develop your/our skills.

If your interested, I have a few other tutorials/how it was made images. If the mods agree, maybe we could set-up a tag such as "tutorial" or "guide" or other.

Another example: http://moe.imouto.org/post/show/88408

Could be useful to artists who use moe as reference/inspiration

While it does interest me to have a centralized place where I can look and gather such tutorials. Strictly speaking, at the moment I don't feel like it belongs here >.<

Stubborn Iinchou D:

Could someone translate a bit of the coloring steps? Maybe #5-7. I've always wondered how Sayori does her coloring. It appears as though she's using 7 different colors in Arc's hair alone. :O

over the base color of the hair, she makes 6 layers. from the bottom to the top:
1) lighter shadow
2) mid shadow
3) darker shadow
4) gradation (used only on long hairs)
5) highlights
6) reflection lights (if only there are enough time to do)
(o^∇^o)ﾉ

WOW. JUST WOW, I USE 6 LAYERS TOO. ROFL. (not counting the base color layer)

But I normally first make a soft shadow, with gradation, and soft lights. Then one to hair dark details, one to light details. Then another, to general shading, dark colors, but not darker than the dark details. Then another to general lightning, not too light otherwise the hair will look fluorescent. Finally one to the reflection lights, that "glow" on the characters bangs.

I think making the dark details layer first is good, because they take the lead to the ways so you can make good general shading, with movement. Um, I hope the English is enough so you can understand what I mean...

Thank you, Crim! I should look up Sayori's computer specs; I bet she has a lot of RAM. I'm going to build a new system soon and I want to put lots of RAM into it so can use a million layers in Photoshop. Although, it has been a long time since I painted in Photoshop because I am so addicted to SAI.

I am also wondering what sort of brush shapes or blending techniques she uses.

Riven said:
Thank you, Crim! I should look up Sayori's computer specs; I bet she has a lot of RAM. I'm going to build a new system soon and I want to put lots of RAM into it so can use a million layers in Photoshop. Although, it has been a long time since I painted in Photoshop because I am so addicted to SAI.

I am also wondering what sort of brush shapes or blending techniques she uses.

I don't think Sayori's posted her specs, aside from her tablet. You don't need a whole lot of RAM; I get by just fine with 4gb on my laptop, and I can create a few hundred active layers without any problem.

Riven said:
Thank you, Crim! I should look up Sayori's computer specs; I bet she has a lot of RAM. I'm going to build a new system soon and I want to put lots of RAM into it so can use a million layers in Photoshop. Although, it has been a long time since I painted in Photoshop because I am so addicted to SAI.

I am also wondering what sort of brush shapes or blending techniques she uses.

You don't need a lot of RAM for PhotoShop layers, just for PhotoShop itself you need a lot of RAM. I once made a wallpaper on PhotoShop CS4 consisting of 50 layers, and nothing crashed. Then again, that was just 50 layers, and I have a desktop computer, so needless to say I have a lot of RAM and memory.

/Computer freak

As for brush shapes, either Sayori makes them herself, or she gets them from random websites. The pictutres too small for me to exactly tell where she got the brushes, sorry! D:

Photoshop has been limited at the maximum RAM = 1.7GB in long ages. When artists paint something at eroge companies, a method requires over that limit tends to be avoided because many companies are still using photoshop 7.

32-bit PS (CS4) will use about 3 gigs here.

Uwaa, midzki, why do they still use Photoshop 7? D:
Ideally, I don't want to have to worry about limiting the resolution and layers of my photoshop work. I haven't run into a problem yet, but there are graphic designers who design images with hundreds of layers. Obviously that requires a lot of RAM or a large scratch disk. I think Kantoku uses 12 gigs now. =0

Riven said:
I am also wondering what sort of brush shapes or blending techniques she uses.

Sayori's colors are soft, she probably uses strong brush + blur or airbrush to most shading. But she has some rough details, especially on clothes, so I think she uses different brushes according to the situation. (Just supposing though...)

Ponnkun said:You don't need a whole lot of RAM; I get by just fine with 4gb on my laptop, and I can create a few hundred active layers without any problem.

I have 3 GB on mine and I can barely open a PSD file... *sigh* So 1 GB can make such big difference. Photoshop is so heavy. PS 7 is good and functional, I might install it again... Right now I'm questing for something between SAI's simpleness and PS's brushes features. If anyone has ideas...

12 gigs?... Wow. GL Riven! Hehe. I hope you get a very good computer. A good tablet helps too.

I heard most apps for XP is limited under 2GB, and only some apps can hundle 3GB (Photoshop CS2 or later and Paint tool SAI support it afaik) with a special setting of XP (that's a thing I don't know.. since my RAM is 2GB)

Debbie said:
Right now I'm questing for something between SAI's simpleness and PS's brushes features. If anyone has ideas...

I only use the clone or the patch tool when I use PS with a tablet.. sorry :P
But I know almost functions SAI has σ(ﾟｰ^*)

Is that so? I am very noobish at SAI. I heard that you can use PS brushes on it too, but it's way harder to load them. Um, do you have some kind of tut or site to share, midzki?

Debbie said: I have 3 GB on mine and I can barely open a PSD file... *sigh* So 1 GB can make such big difference. Photoshop is so heavy. PS 7 is good and functional, I might install it again... Right now I'm questing for something between SAI's simpleness and PS's brushes features. If anyone has ideas...

12 gigs?... Wow. GL Riven! Hehe. I hope you get a very good computer. A good tablet helps too.

I have two drives on my computer, so I have a lot of gigs. I tried installing PhotoShop CS4 on my Mom's laptop, her laptop is 'newer' by the way, and it doesn't really work all that well. She'll have to deal with my Dad's computer for now to edit photo's and that. I feel kind of sorry for her, my Dad's always on his computer. xD

midzki said:
I heard most apps for XP is limited under 2GB, and only some apps can hundle 3GB (Photoshop CS2 or later and Paint tool SAI support it afaik) with a special setting of XP (that's a thing I don't know.. since my RAM is 2GB)

I have XP, and PhotoShop CS4 works fine. *Shrugs.* Must depend on the kind of computer, how much gigs you have, and RAM you have after all, I guess.

I've always wanted to get Paint tool SAI, but I don't have any money. ;-;

I've always wanted to get Paint tool SAI, but I don't have any money. ;-;

You can always get the crack one *cough* Just saying. *hides*

ashkachan said:
I've always wanted to get Paint tool SAI, but I don't have any money. ;-;

I will send you a gift. *hides*

Debbie said:
Um, do you have some kind of tut or site to share, midzki?

http://www3.atwiki.jp/sai/ should be translated in English
and browse Pixiv randomly

Thanks so much!
I just downloaded a translator, I hope it works...
Thanks again, what an amazing site. I will definitely learn Japanese when I enter University!!
Hehe... If you ever want to share links... Just say it!! Thankies!

Thanks for that link, midzki; there's a lot of great info on that website!