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I copied the definition...Cripes. Did you believe i actually wrote all of that?(That's humanly impossible for me to type all out in 1 minute on my phone)
um... ano... eh?...

i was hoping for a response based on the topic... chika chan...

oh... sugoi... you have internet access from cell phones...
wow natsumenatsu your get all your opinions about lolicons from 1 "western" book/movie depicting a man have relations with a minor...hhmm in most countries that's against the law isn't it, they call that being a pedophile correct, not a lolicon or having a lolita complex, at least where I am from that's what its called.I've never seen the news once say a man/women being arrested for lolicon/lolita complex actions have you? Guess you see it as lolicons are pedophiles 100%
Alright I took a time out of my life (again...) to argue this somewhat seemlessly pointless argument.

Also the day lolita evolved into 2D was the day the Lolicon Society was formed. They hereby state they defend the rights of all individuals who take part in the enjoyment of FICTIONAL 2D characters. Not in the acts of those Disgusting Men who take delight in 3D(Real) children of the world.

That is when it evolved to 2D!
um... that is... it is derived from that book...

lolita complex is a mental state... not actions...

demo... where i am right now... it is a criminal act... to exploit lolicon themed objects... although there are who gets away with it as this country so so messed up with controversies...

well... i'd understand if you feel that way...

i'm just not comfortable you calling yourself a lolicon

where in fact, you're someone who's just into moe...
loli = 2d and as such is NOT REAL
natsumenatsu said:
demo... where i am right now... it is a criminal act... to exploit lolicon themed objects... although there are who gets away with it as this country so so messed up with controversies...
where your at its illegal to exploit lolicon themed objects? I doubt that, I bet the law says, underage (minors) children in sexual acts. Very few countries have banned "lolicon" hentai/manga becuase it depicts "cartoon" children in sexual acts, there is a difference. loli = 2D
ano... chika chan... what's this lolicon society?...

um... spa san... i'm confused... let's play a game then...

lolicon = ?

shotacon = ?

pedophilia =?

anyways... i think you skipped a line where i said... westerners transformed the term lolicon into a genre rather than a paraphilia...
Yeah, my goverment is fail, but I don't understand that, what does it mean?
iya... i don't think i'm going through that link... chika chan gomen...

anyways... my replies might be a little slow... because i'm a little busy... gomen...
It basically means that the UK believes that any image of the such that is contained on this site is considered "illegal" and in violation of the child acts. "Dam idiots" is what i think. Those people are exactly like natsumenatsu here who believe pedophile is linked to lolicon.[lolita complex, lolita fashion, etc.]
natsumenatsu said:
lolicon = ?

shotacon = ?

pedophilia =?
pedophilia = acting of fantasies of sexual acts on 3D children, female/male, having thought of sexual fantasies with 3D underage females/males

lolicon/shotacon = having fantasies of underage 'cartoon' chilren, female/male characters depicted in sexual acts. Look at the tags loli and shota if those pics are arousing to you that makes you a lolicon/shotacon do you see a pedo tag? no because it would then be a picture of a 3D underage girl in a sexual act, if those pics aroused you that would make you a pedo
ChikaneHimemiya said:
It basically means that the UK believes that any image of the such that is contained on this site is considered "illegal" and in violation of the child acts. "Dam idiots" is what i think. Those people are exactly like natsumenatsu here who believe pedophile is linked to lolicon.[lolita complex, lolita fashion, etc.]
They're also corrupt, and have no intelligence.

They don't seem to actually care though, as it's never been on the news or anything, they should be focusing on real crimes not 2d images that aren't real
um... lolita complex... and lolita fashion... are two different things... chika chan...

it's kind of like saying... dog food and dog meat...

both have the word dog... in it... but the meaning is totally different...

i have no problem in lolita themed stuffs such as fashion...

i am a gothic lolita fan myself...
natsumenatsu said:
it's kind of like saying... dog food and dog meat...

both have the word dog... in it... but the meaning is totally different...
so people who eat dog food and dog meat are the same? You approve of people eating dogs? i bet not right

thus lolicon and lolita complex are different by what u said
um... spa san... lolicon is a portmanteau of the words lolita complex...

please try not getting your emotions in your way...

i think... you got my intentions on the wrong way...
spalose said:
pedophilia = acting of fantasies of sexual acts on 3D children, female/male, having thought of sexual fantasies with 3D underage females/males

lolicon/shotacon = having fantasies of underage 'cartoon' chilren, female/male characters depicted in sexual acts. Look at the tags loli and shota if those pics are arousing to you that makes you a lolicon/shotacon do you see a pedo tag? no because it would then be a picture of a 3D underage girl in a sexual act, if those pics aroused you that would make you a pedo
if that is the case... how do you sever the classifications of pedophiles who are into girls from boys?...
what intentions, where just trying to make it clear to you that there is a difference between pedos and lolicons.

Why don't you tell me your intentions?

there is no classification for 3D if your a pedo your a child molester, thus gender doesn't matter cuz there still children. Would it matter if the child was female or male?

Look at the tags on this site shota loli they exist because 2D lolicons are not 3D pedos
um... was talking to chika chan when i was talking about dogfood and dogmeat... which are different... so as when we say lolita complex and lolita fashion...

please read carefully on what i am saying... as my intentions are clear... while it is clouded by your emotions... spa san...
You're intentions are not very clear.
um... okay... let's do it this way...

lolita complex = a paraphilia based on young girls

lolita fashion = a fashion based on young girls

dog meat = meat from a dog

dog food = food for dogs

both have the same word on it (lolita/dog)

but the meaning are totally different as the are other words in conjunction to it...
natsumenatsu said:
um... okay... let's do it this way...

lolita complex = a paraphilia based on young girls

lolita fashion = a fashion based on young girls

dog meat = meat from a dog

dog food = food for dogs

both have the same word on it (lolita/dog)

but the meaning are totally different as the are other words in conjunction to it...
lolita complex = a paraphilia based on 2D young girls - not real
Those are two very incomparable things.

The basis is quite simple

Theres two types of people that can be discussed in this matter

LOLICON

PRO-Otaku's and the such CON-Politicians, GOV.

The CON side effortlessly conjoins loli and pedo together as seen in the UK Act link which i provided above which describes in full details those dumbasses and their train of thought. Much similar to natsume here.

The PRO side effortlessly tries to distinguish how lolicon IS NOT related to those disgusting child molesters preying on 3D( real people )

And while i'm at it... Hi there HelperDrone! Welcome to the moe lounge. Although right now it seems more like a dam politician's room which is not as awesome. Rest assured I'll do my best to restore peace as soon as possible. XD!!
ChikaneHimemiya said:

And while i'm at it... Hi there HelperDrone! Welcome to the moe lounge. Although right now it seems more like a dam politician's room which is not as awesome. Rest assured I'll do my best to restore peace as soon as possible. XD!!
Thank you, but then again you are speaking cohearantly, so it's a bit different to polititians.
chika chan... i was saying...

lolicon from where i am are the paraphilia itself

whereas in western countries...

lolicon is a genre in anime and manga...

i've been posting this one eversince... but nobody seems to understand it...

i guess for helperdrone's sake i'll keep quiet...
natsumenatsu said:
lolicon is a genre in anime and manga...
2D END OF STORY. No more. I want to get back to peaceful things we had here. Now on that topic...Anyone seeing any of the new Spring 2010 animes? It's technically sorta new since they're continuing past 13 orig, episodes so I'm throwing in KG-AND which got really good recently! ; )
if you would have that earlier chika chan... spa san would get as disappointed as he was right now...

oh... i'm looking forward to kiddy girl-and...