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mpixels:<1.92 or mpixels:<=1.92 is the reasonable point. and it's not the fault, similar to duplicate which make less effort of moderation if it's used efficiently (I'm mainly thinking to make less priority of tagging on lowres images)
Radioactive said:
I had forgotten you could search using mpixels:<2

Anyway, unless there are any objections can someone tag the lowres images?
blooregardo said:
No, The site is for high res images, instead of tagging them I'd prefer delete them if we are going to raise the standard now. Btw, mpixels:<2 are 1950 pages.
Let's wait a bit and discuss this first. I don't have a full opinion/solution yet, but I don't think either option is the way to go.

The "2 megapixels" thing I wrote is rough. Stuff like post #29019 is under 2 mpixels, but even though it is a bit small to me, I wouldn't consider it low res.

I don't think it'd be very productive to go vigilante on old stuff and do a mass delete, except the most egregious ones. If we were to make 2 mpixels a hard and fast rule, more people would start upscaling or do some form of pixel stuffing.

Edit: haha, it looks like a lot of people wrote things since I started writing this post.
There is also 239 pages of mpixels:<1, which technically would fall afoul of the less than 1000x1000 rule already in place.
MirrorMagpie said:
Why either/or? How about both? To be accepted here, an image must be high quality *and* high resolution. This site doesn't (nor do I think it should) archive the internet, it just takes the cream of the crop.
That's what we've been doing and so far it's gone pretty good, imo.

Aurelia said:
Let's wait a bit and discuss this first. I don't have a full opinion/solution yet, but I don't think either option is the way to go.

The "2 megapixels" thing I wrote is rough. Stuff like post #29019 is under 2 mpixels, but even though it is a bit small to me, I wouldn't consider it low res.

I don't think it'd be very productive to go vigilante on old stuff and do a mass delete, except the most egregious ones. If we were to make 2 mpixels a hard and fast rule, more people would start upscaling or do some form of pixel stuffing.

Edit: haha, it looks like a lot of people wrote things since I started writing this post.
I've always given very high leniency on our older posts. I'm probably gonna stick to that too.
The site was intended for high resolution images only..so if we stick by that..we should probably kill 2-3k pages of stuff. I'm keeping the threshold for low res images at acceptable levels ~1000x1000 but i'm with Blooregardo about starting to kill most of pixiv's/low res images. Sure they might be good, but moe isn't an image archive like danbooru. Pixiv stuff should stay on pixiv. We aren't a replacement for it. (sure some high res work here and there fine, but there are people that are just mass importing from pixiv).
How do people feel about original pictures taken from people's personal sites rather than art-hosting sites? Should that kind of thing be allowed? I refer to things like toweringman or if someone started taking pictures from Megatokyo.
I quite dislike the idea; I think if a person has chosen to keep their stuff to their own site it should stay there, but this is just my opinion.

regarding the megapixelage, isn't it possible to make it so that one *can't* upload images <1000x1000 rather than letting them be uploaded and then identified and deleted by mods later?
MirrorMagpie said:
There is also 239 pages of mpixels:<1, which technically would fall afoul of the less than 1000x1000 rule already in place.
I once killed hundreds of mpixels:<=0.48 which I know the only strict resolution guideline. just now I deleted other somes (except pooled, scaned, and the post #1868).
Fuuraiken said:
How do people feel about original pictures taken from people's personal sites rather than art-hosting sites?
it's pleased for them in most case (as long as my acquaintance) with a practical reason if it keep the original source/artist without hiding or deceiving, and keep away from economical demerits.
not important opinion
I don't want to see a sudden site-purge of images that don't meet the >1.9 megapixels limit. We should use the lowres tag as a mod tag similar to duplicate If it's flagged with that fault tag then at a later date a moderator may decide to either remove the tag, or delete it.

Midzki - It should be a fault tag. We need to dissuade users from uploading without first looking at their images.

I was there was an easy way to flag images with anatomical mistakes.
Fuuraiken said:
isn't it possible to make it so that one *can't* upload images <1000x1000 rather than letting them be uploaded and then identified and deleted by mods later?
petopeto would have to design something custom to filter by megapixels. Probably quicker, short term, to make it a manual effort.

Remember that lowres isn't condemning the image to deletion. If a mod likes the picture then they should remove the tag.
Radioactive said:
Remember that lowres isn't condemning the image to deletion. If a mod likes the picture then they should remove the tag.
That's a great idea! I support it!
Radioactive said:
If it's flagged with that fault tag then at a later date a moderator may decide to either remove the tag, or delete it.
fault or not never depends on mod's likes. it should be universally applyed anywhere anytime.
But by tagging it as lowres will we be condemning it to deletion?

It hasn't escaped my attention that some mods are gunning to delete anything tagged as lowres
in before, petopeto defined faults as possibility of image restoration with image editing.
midzki said:
fault or not never depends on mod's likes. it should be universally applyed anywhere anytime.
Similar to how we deal with the duplicate tag someone will have to make a judgement. It should be impartial, and objective.

My comment about 'If a mod likes the picture then they should remove the tag.' should be ignored. That's too much like how images are approved on danbooru.
midzki said:
in before, petopeto defined faults as possibility of image restoration with image editing.
Maybe so, but I'm trying to highlight to the uploaders where they are going wrong by turning lowres to a fault tag. It's purely for show, and will probably be ignored.
I don't want to see the mass deleting either, but it's just my little selfishness: since I gave up storaging image on HDD, the way to mark beautiful pictures for me is uploading them to moe.imouto. If we cut a lot of them, it will be hard for me to review my favs :P
Maybe I should begin to upload some of them to danbooru.

Ok, I went too far afield. >_> In the long-term we really should restrict pixiv's stuff.. there're many people complain about that to me.
syaoran-kun said:
The site was intended for high resolution images only..so if we stick by that..we should probably kill 2-3k pages of stuff. I'm keeping the threshold for low res images at acceptable levels ~1000x1000 but i'm with Blooregardo about starting to kill most of pixiv's/low res images. Sure they might be good, but moe isn't an image archive like danbooru. Pixiv stuff should stay on pixiv. We aren't a replacement for it. (sure some high res work here and there fine, but there are people that are just mass importing from pixiv).
Sure they might be good, but moe isn't an image archive like danbooru."

I agree with this.
As long as we tag lowres we can decide how to deal with them in the future.

Think carefully before banning, or restricting, pixiv artwork
We better stop talking about mass deletion, it makes me do the same face as my avatar, Something as a lowres tag could be fine, but the standard is a little high. Currently we are accepting images over 700x1000 or 1000x700 which is 0.70 mpixels so, anything below that could be tagged as lowres and considered for deletion, I personally would suggest mpixels:<=0.80.
The real problem is people uploading whatever they can, but that's another topic.
aoie_emesai said:
Sure they might be good, but moe isn't an image archive like danbooru."
It never will be. The main issue is that the quality/resolution of digital images are now exceeding to our minimum acceptable image size rule (However you interpret it)
blooregardo said:
We better stop talking about mass deletion, it makes me do the same face as my avatar, Something as a lowres tag could be fine, but the standard is a little high. Currently we are accepting images over 700x1000 or 1000x700 which is 0.70 mpixels so, anything below that could be tagged as lowres and considered for deletion, I personally would suggest mpixels:<=0.80.
The real problem is people uploading whatever they can, but that's another topic.
I would go with Midzki and suggest we tag images <1.92 megapixels.
I thought it could suggest people to use -lowres search for the convenient of users, since mpixles is complicated.

btw, I'm using mpixels:>6 when moe is flooded many posts.

PS: parent:none date:>2010-01-01 mpixels:<1.92 parent:none date:>2010-01-01 mpixels:>=1.92 nearly 1/3... mmm (-ω-)
So now, all the pictures needs moderator approval...
Danbooru's mods takes a century to approve anything...
Good luck with all the approvals, pals~

I go for mpixels:<1.2 to tag lowres pictures. But something around 1~2 is very ok, I guess.

Criteria Maybe it's better not to act too radical, keep making small changes little by little? Maybe this way you mods can feel what's the best way of solving this issue.

-lowres is something very useful.
Debbie said:
So now, all the pictures needs moderator approval...
Danbooru's mods takes a century to approve anything...
Good luck with all the approvals, pals~

I go for mpixels:<1.2 to tag lowres pictures. But something around 1~2 is very ok, I guess.

Criteria Maybe it's better not to act too radical, keep making small changes little by little? Maybe this way you mods can feel what's the best way of solving this issue.

-lowres is something very useful.
We don't have Mod Q, debbie. :P
We're all here for high-res/high-quality images, so I'm quite happy to see the the megapixel limit set high.

I don't think we are going to get a consensus on what to do with the lowres images, so best to leave them alone.

Has anyone looked at upload limits? Not sure I like the idea very much, but it will slow down users uploading any old rubbish. It'll make them think, and look at, what they upload.
currently over 30% of uploads are under UXGA.
don't know how you guys thinking about this situation, but I'm sure there are many people who won't spend time to dig scans from massive posts..

the current moe isn't convenient for people who only want highres scans. we better have a new system to search out non-hires scans.
I think get the scan tag is the best if we keep expanding digital image hosting.
then I can only watch and moderate images tagged with scan
( ̄▽ ̄)ノ.
massive posts (not pooled) turn off watching all, and I sometime gave up to check all posts.
So you want a tag to differentiate between scanned images, and digital images? That isn't practical. You're a mod, so some pain is necessary when reviewing what has been uploaded.

I'll agreed that the site is feeling too busy nowadays. This is one of the reasons I've halted the e-shuushuu image uploads.
Radioactive said:
So you want a tag to differentiate between scanned images, and digital images?
Isn't it funny if the scan-specified site get the scan tag? :p